His Nighthawk Long Slide 1911 is plenty accurate, too, averaging less than 2.0 inches for five-shot groups at 25 yards. With my 4" 629 I can get 1200 fps. Terms of Service - The rimfire caliber of a 17 caliber gun is 18 rounds. Dave installed G10 MILTAC grips from Craig Sword and engraved 25 lines per inch checkering on both front and back strap. I would try to keep a maximum range of 50yds. 45acp is great against humans. Especially in the evenings the deer file out of the woods and nearby overgrown habitats to take advantage of the green wheat, oats, clovers, and brassicas we plant. No hurry on the first shot, but I've seen animals suddenly cover quite a bit of ground after taking a fatal round in the chest cavity, so its important to be ready for a quick follow up. If you intend to hunt deer with a rifle or a shotguns, you must first obtain a hunting license. A ethical hunter will do his or her best th make a clean, humane kill. All of Mikes shots were through and through. Will it make it possible to hunt with my 1911? I was carrying a Marlin 336 lever action in 35 Remington with a 2X7 scope set on 2 power. I have hunted with my scoped S&W Mod 29 sitting in my lap in tree stands and ground blinds. TC barrels come with adjustable sights, but optics mounts are available. The TRP was loaded with Federals 180-gr. Paper ballistics on this round include a muzzle velocity of 1,180 fps with 1,077 at 50 yards and 1,004 at 100. There are two types of firearms, the 7mm and the 270 gun. But for the guides who venture into heavy brush after wounded pigs with handguns, it was a different story. The third shot perforated low in the chest area just under the hide but failed to strike any of the vital organs. This premium bolt-action pistol from Nolser will probably outshoot your deer rifle. I know lots of guys like the hardcast bullets for handgun hunting. Add in the fact you must get close to the game in pursuit, and that adds another level of challenge to address. In Minnesota, it is illegal to shoot deer with a 1911 45acp. Working on shooting fundamentals such as trigger squeeze, sight picture, breathing, consistent grip, target acquisition and follow-through are essential components of keeping in-tune with your handgun. - Thomas Paine. GA once had a "500 ft/lbs @ 100 yds." Id convinced myself a 10 mm or .45 caliber 1911 could be used successfully for hunting, keeping in mind the range limitations imposed by pistol cartridges and the hunters shooting skills. Buffalo Bores ammo is built for big bores and has a lot of power and speed. Placing that bullet in the vitals is no less crucial. I have used Barns Tac-XPD with great success. "Alive" is a very vague term. In Alabama, there are a lot of deer; there are a lot of does, so were fortunate. If I shoot a deer with my pistol rather than a bow, I feel like I get 20 yards more. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Deer hunting with handguns is challenging because it typically requires you to get within almost bow range to make a good shot. Minnesota hunters can now use smaller-caliber rifles. Whats the big picture overview of hunting with the 10mm? Many people use them for hunting because they are accurate and powerful. The best of anything is generally very expensive. If I did, I think I'd develop some hot hard cast loads. :biglaugh: The 45 ACP is not a good tool for this job. Well, it can be done, but a lot of that depends on where you're hunting as well. Took this one at 23 yards. Field & Stream is dedicated to covering safe and responsible gun ownership for hunting, recreation, and personal protection. Two where Kimbers, and one was the older Colt Delta model, all chambered in the 10mm cartridge. Buffalo Bores unique design for critical applications distinguishes it from other ammo brands that simply go off. Theyre rugged, accurate, and can still be had for less than a grand. Straight from SHOT Show, here are the latest Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. Like the Python, both can be had with a 4- or 6-inch barrel and size and weight are comparable. This includes 13 categories of 1911 models and 86 individual specific 1911 pistol models. Balistically speaking the 45 ACP in my opinion does not pack enough punch to drop a mature whitetail at any decent range. The bead was located just above the tail when the trigger broke on the second round. It was too hot and humid to be seriously hunting, but I was packing a 1911 loaded with Buffalo Bore . Minnesotas deer population has taken a significant step forward with this bills passage. Fortunately, the early morning fog lifted and a mature doe came slipping along through the woods. Camp used to hunt Texas deer with .45acp and 9mm, using a 1911 and BHP, respectively. 1911 Idaho Pioneer Family Cowgirls Rifle Guns Gunbelt w Bullets Hunt Deer . The 400-pound sow (estimated by the guide) hadcovered perhaps 20 yards before collapsing on the edge of the clearing. Neither round exited the 300-plus-pound pig. The 41 Colt A1 MAGTEC 230g JHP is a model gun. The load for a carbine is 30 tons. If it was all I had I might carry my 1911 as a sidearm for SD in the woods when rifle or bow hunting as long as I wasn't in grizzly country. And then there is the Smith & Wesson Performance Center Model 460. Dave runs the Springfield Custom Shop and won the American Pistolsmith's Guild prestigious Pistolsmith of the Year award a few years back. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. CVA has released a new model of the Paramount Pro for 2023, termed the Paramount Pro V2. Smith & Wessons Model 350 revolver is chambered for the 350 Legend. It might have been more like a car dealer just wanting to sell what is on the car lot, not having to be bothered with ordering one. Springfields Armory TRP 10mm is ideally suited for such a task. The Nosler Model 48 Custom handgun is a bit pricy, but like I saidIf I were to get serious about deer hunting with a handgun. I usually hunt in eastern Oregon elk and big western mulies with an early 80's vintage Remington 700 KS Mtn rifle in .300 win mag. Archive - For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Gain a better understanding of the World's most popular big game animal and the techniques that will help you become a better deer hunter. I made the mistake once of using the hard cast load on a deer and it destroyed the front third of the deer. Watching this ThreadI am going to kill deer this year with my 1911. I have done it twice, an hour apart. Reply D dk17hmr Well-Known Member Joined Nov 15, 2009 Messages 259 Location Wyoming The Springfield Ronin (.45 or 10mm) is a comely, capable 1911, a perfect match for a chest holster. When hunting deer I use my SD carry load, 230gr Speer GoldDot JHP keep my shots to 50 yards and less and it will knock a deer off it's feet. Since pig hunting (and self defense) is a year round activity, we needed something to ensure that sweaty hands would not compromise my shooting grip, particularly if rapid follow up shots were required. Good LuckRides Alone. Just because their still kickin' doesn't mean their not dead. Two of his 200-grain rounds broke the boar's shoulder and his back anchoring the pig before he could get into some heavy cover. I determined earlier from the Kimber factory catalog that the other model under consideration also had fixed sights. ~ Recurveman~. As I was browsing through several social media platforms in the hunting and shooting groups, I couldnt help but notice the amount of handgun hunting being shared. If I mount a red dot sight such as Trijicons RMR or Leupolds DeltaPoint Pro on the TRP Operator, then I could extend the distance a little. Death may stalk me but it will never take me alive. Just wondering, this being a 1911 forum, has anyone ever tried and had luck shooting a deer with one? Live The Armory Life. A BB gun, rifle, or shotguns are exempt from being carried unless they are stored at a facility where firearms are repaired, bought, sold, traded, or displayed. This particular 1911 is a longslide with 6 barrel. Find out more at. The SAAMI standard is not supported by this document. 449 S 12th St.Tampa, Florida 33602United States, The Ultimate Guide To Buying Rangefinder Binoculars For Outdoor Enthusiasts And Hunters, How To Collimate Empire Wayfarer Binoculars: Unlocking Optimal Performance With Proper Alignment, Where Do Polaris Binoculars Come From? The author takes a shot with the Nosler Model 48 Custom Handgun. It took a lot of practice to shoot that deer at that distance. That would be my maximum practical range for shooting a deer out of my ground blind. The companys full-power-plus jackets are sniper-quality, as are their Remington shotguns. From a ground hide it is not unusual to have deer walk within yards of the blinds. 1. None of the 10 mm rounds using expanding bullets exited the back side of either pig, yet they all did their job, and neither pig traveled more than a few yards. In 2022, he was named as the brands Shooting Editor. We kicked around some general specifications with Dave suggesting an extra inch of slide/barrel and the use of a Springfield Custom National Match barrel. University, and then a PhD in Industrial Psychology. Forreston, TX. Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. (Sponsored) Gun Talk's KJ heads to Oklahoma with the new Springfield Armory TRP 10mm 1911 Operator (available in both 5" and 6" Longslide) for a handgun hunting challenge. In this case I had to slightly ease the slide back from the muzzle to get the release to let go. USMC 68-72. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Slowly, I rested the Operator on the window ledge of the blind and settled the sights behind the shoulder. The Korth NRX could be considered one of the best hunting revolvers made today, but it will cost you. 11-18-18 Whitetail deer kill. Hunting laws required at least.23 caliber weapons, but several other cartridges were exempt. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. - Originally Posted by Oldtimr Not legal in PA, you can carry one bit you can't shoot deer or any big game with it. The pie plate is basically the size of the vital area on a deer. According to a wildlife manager with the Department of Natural Resources, there has been no problem with game recovery because of lighter loads. Fit and finish are beyond exceptional, and its price, unless you married well, is out of reach for most deer hunters. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -. 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The use of rifles is currently prohibited in the states northern half during the regular firearms deer hunting season and during muzzleloading season. All three are fitted with adjustable sights and are light enough that you can shoot them off-hand without support. Impressive Power While the .45 ACP dates to the Model T, and the 10mm Auto barely beat Teslas to market, stiff loads from both will serve hunters. I'm sure a lot of people of shot deer with the 45 acp but in my opinion there are better choices like a 357 mag or bigger. His hunts entail 30 trips to Africa in 10 countries, 25 hunts in Asia in 11 countries, plus many other remote destinations. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! More importantly for my mission, he began with the 10 mm round and has continued to expand the selection of this caliber to include a variety of loads. Without the help of coyotes, this may or may not have been fatal. I am a pacifist who has become skilled in the arts of war so that I may enforce my rights to be a pacifist. There is no definitive answer to this question as it varies from state to state. At the range I initiated shooting the out of the box gun at ten yards into a white pizza pie cardboard insert target upon which I drew black crosshairs. I did not experience any hang ups when firing the pistol. Ennis, TX. For those who are interested in using a handgun, a 1911 is a good option. It is a very attractive pistol. We are pleased with the recent move by Minnesota legislators to eliminate shotguns from deer hunting. But big wild boars are not soft skinned animals. Thats the one I wanted for deer hunting. A second round traveling downward through her shoulder blades ended the hunt. Over the last decade there seems to have been a renewed interest in handgun hunting, particularly with 10mm pistols. In fact, a 686 was my first duty handgun. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. If it's in your hands, it should take a second or less for the rifle to be in shooting position, with a correct cheek-weld achieved. Buffalo bore is best known for its Heavy or ammunition bullets, such as a 9 mm Heavy load with a 1241 Grain JHP that shoots from a 5-inch barrel at over 1,350 fps. Taurus didn't just do better with its latest pistol. You need to be really close. The 10mm Auto was not designed to harvest big game at long range and shouldnt be employed to do so. I don't agree with this. With the 12- or 14-inch TC barrel, the G2 is just slightly heavier than a Python or a 686. Having hunted SC for over 20 years while living there I will say that given the close ranges most deer are taken at, there(power line hunting aside) The .45 can be very effective out to 25 yards or so in. Mike has made a name for himself in the 10 years he has been manufacturing high-quality ammo. All about shot placement, I believe. He takes a close look at the gun in this classic cartridge. Actually a 1911 is legal in ohio .45 is greater than .357 and all mil spec 1911's have a 5-inch barrel. 200 gr cast semi wad cutters. In a search at local gun dealers and after working three or four gun shows, the only 10mm semi-auto I could find was a Glock. Building on the reputation of the companys HEVI-Metal line, the new Xtreme series uses a blend of 30 percent tungsten shot and 70 percent precision steel pellets for a combination that will have you dropping birds from the sky with authority. (Lots of aftermarket Contender barrels are available too.) Did not seem as quick as any arrow shot I have made, which puts them down and out fairly quickly. Those things can be mistaken for cattle from 1/2 mile away. Most of the time i am going or coming to a tree stand. The features that make a big game rifle suitable for hunting include a magazine capacity that is large enough to hold enough cartridges for a single shot, a barrel length that is long enough to provide stability and accuracy, and a stock that is designed for a comfortable and secure grip. However, the technical definition for a pistol is a handgun with a chamber that is integral to the barrel. Updated Dec 16, 2022 4:00 PM. Oh and i shoot them in the neck. 223 is a common caliber used in both shotguns and pistols. Thanks!!! Reply 11-21-2008, 06:04 AM # 19 wis_bow_huntr Giant Nontypical Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nekoosa Wi USA Posts: 6,066 RE: 1911 for Deer Mark and Karen, his lovely wife of 40 years, reside in south Missouri and enjoy hunting on their farm. Kimber pistols are the quintessential 1911. Flatter shooting, hits harder, and better penetration are hard to argue with. However, when it comes to new pistols, here are five of the best currently available. Whether bear-hunting or simply seeking bear defense, Big Bore delivers the penetration and energy transfer needed to stop a big ursid in its tracks. Possibly the premier hunting handgun of all time, the TC Arms G2 Contender is a single shot, but with its barrel interchangeability feature, its can shoot just about any cartridgeincluding rifle cartridges. What I lacked was a demonstration of either rounds ability to penetrate the serious gristle armor on a large boar. The sales guy pulled the other one from stock and it was 100%. That's about as fancy as we got because this was to be a serious working/hunting handgun with an emphasis on functional rather than fancy. I still wouldn't bet my hunt on a pistol that is marginal at 50 yds. Yes, you can hunt with a 1911. Bowhunting for deer, like pistol hunting for deer, is both a form of art and a sport. The Volunteer XV Pro features is built on a mid-length gas system with a 16-inch threaded barrel and chambered in 6mm ARC to make it a high-speed deer hunter made in the USA. If you buy a 500 Smith & Wesson for deer hunting, the price will not matter, because you dont have enough sense to make good decisions anyway. It might also assist in making more precise shots at longer ranges. The answer is yes if you are wondering if The 350 Legend is legal for deer hunting. Also, the Glock had fixed sights, which I did not want for this task. Volume 8: The 10mm Digital Magazine. The most popular calibers in recent years include the 45-70 Magnum lever gun. Enderby Ranch. Being a former marine rather than an ivory tower scientist, Mike uses his products afield, and when he learned that the Dunton Ranch in northern Arizona offered guided pig hunts and was halfway between our homes, it was game on. Click the Go To Forum Thread link below to jump in! It does not include, for example, a persons home or premises, or the land they own or manage. The trigger is very smooth with a great let off. Has anyone had success or any problems with a good quality JHP (thinking Speer Gold Dot?) Considered by many to be the Cadillac of American-made revolvers, the Colt Python is now back in production and is available with either a 3-, 4.25- or 6-inch barrel. Many people who are against deer hunting with a handgun argue that it is not a fair chase because the deer does not have a chance to escape. This is due in large part to the fact that different hunters have different preferences when it comes to their firearms and ammunition choices. The views After all, shooting a handgun accurately, consistently, is more difficult than shooting a rifle with its shoulder support. Never take a marginal shot and drawing your 1911 and shooting is a marginal shot. A 223-grain rifle is a good choice for deer hunting. 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JavaScript is disabled. I've never heard of anyone hunting deer with a .45 ACP, although I know of one person who hunts white-tails with a 10mm auto in a 1911-style pistol. Kimber makes a 10MM 1911 specifically designed for hunting, this would be a better option. I used to practice this about a 100 reps a day. I don't care what ya hunt there are plenty of dedicated calibers available for everything. 1911 Idaho Pioneer Family Gypsy Traveler House Caravan . articles and videos are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. If you like an adrenaline rush, hunting wild hogs with dogs will get your heart rate accelerated for sure. and opinions expressed on this website are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the This may have prompted you to ask yourself, What is the big deal? The only weapons permitted in this category are a gun, a bow, and an arrow. Back here in the Midwest there is an incredible amount of hunting pressure on the deer. 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