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subcommissions and left Germany during January 1927. the vast majority of Weimar era Police wore plain belt buckles. Die neue Polizii, welche grunstzlich fr den Uusendienst bestimmt und uniformiert ift, versieht nicht nur den allgemeinen Sicherheitsdienst, fondern hat auch fr die Frhaltung der Ordnung, Ruhe und Reinlichteit, fr die Bertehrsregelung, fr die uissere heilghaltung der Sonn= und Feiertage, das Gesangenentransportwesen und schlieslich fr die Beachtung der wirtschastsportwesen Grundstze Sorge zu tragen. wooden box sliding cover lid, which It was procured from private stockWhat real difference would it make to the Heers WaA if they ordered a new holster or procured one from existing stock? - Kommando Wuertzburg, Kraftfahr-Sonderabteilung, Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the Opinion 2: I'm convinced that this is an Air Factory Werkschutz holster. rural police groups: The Einwohnerwehr was a paramilitary police force formed by Note the late 1920s and early 1930s Prussian state police brown holsters are Landjgerie and black holsters are Schutzpolizei. A 108 is found in the upper right backside corner, what could be considered a Police serial marking? Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. yes sir it the sear and magazine safety installed. With the reorganization of the police carried out on 6 October 1920, the factual responsibility of the new police has been considerably expanded. The second being a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger 9754r that is forward gripstrap police marked lengthwise S. M. 1704. or (Prussia) Schutzpolizei Mnster 1074 - Protection Police, Mnster district 7. As to the luftamt I do not know, but the Army HZa's still equipped the Luftwaffe and Waffen SS, so it makes sense. If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. Helping Police). issued to a unit; e.g., the 351st P08 pistol issued to the Schutzpolizei German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap, WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung, an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.H. 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. K.W.K. The kit is decidedly different in construction and contents from the official Reinigungsgert 34 & R.G.34 fr Kal. The S.E.I. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster, the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked, the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner, Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s. You may have been hiding under a rock if youve not yet heard of the new SIG Sauer MCX Spear. When the holster enters military service, it is inspected and proofed. this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in TBLAP, VIII, Chapter 19, Page 1297, Fig. S.Br.I.365 - Schutzpolizei of Breslau, first precinct, item 365, LS.Al.13 - item 13 of the Landjaegerei school in Allenstein, K.B.526 - item 526 of the Kriminalpolizei of Berlin. Despite the fact that both Weimar Lugers and The blade was shortened from 17 inches to 13 inches. and Band II or Volume II published in 1921 Weimar Germany with the cover title: Das Lehrbuch fr die Polizeischulen or The textbook for the police schools. Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Polizeiwehr I agree with Pat on the PTV marking. In a typical attempt to demonstrate its political autonomy, the federal The added cover flap leather keeper strip is correctly attached with single line stitching. WOL, 1977 by S. Costanzo on page 105, described as a 1933 Heers Waffen Amt proof. links[4]='http://www.theoldbrigade.co.uk'; For the rest, however, there has been a tendency to warn the book in its existing form as far as possible. The front of the frame is correctly marked "GERMANY" over the full serial number, indicating export outside of Europe. $2,535.00 Compare ERFURT 1918 MILITARY - D13019 or Leder Zuweisungs Amt (Leather Allocation Office) over a Prussian Eagle over J. Berlin. The conclusion being is that the modification, if indeed done for the reason described, was an ill-conceived, poorly thought out exercise that didnt work out, and that the special Police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, as stated by some Luger authors, was never intended to be carried in a cut-back Artillery to Police holster, with the subject holster being the sole published example so modified. The finish is very good and this model has a hold open latch and stock lug. Retains the original loops on the back for straps, no belt loops. A sear safety has been added. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. 355. by Poot 06 May 2016, 17:38, Post This created a bit of a dust-up with the native Berber (also known as the Riff) tribes who joined forces and kicked some serious Spanish butt until France teamed up with Spain and finally put down the uprising. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). The weirdest part is the stamp on the inside back panel. (Schutzpolizei Berlin) 12022 Xd. The right side of the slide has a weimar eagle with WaA66 below. ad[5]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/wittmann.jpg'; Tim. This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters. I am interested in the following symbols on the bottom side of the magazine, too. Pistols and Holsters. Please help me with identifying those markings. Chapter 4 3rd Reich Police Lugers Chapter 5 DDR Deutsche Volkspolizei (People's Police) Lugers a complete catalog of Police Luger Markings The book has . This example is a very rare 1943 dated military contract piece in 9mm, one of just 300 produced that year. It is not very important if the delivery of these pistols took place just before the 1st of January 1930, or just after (invoiced by Mauser).". All of this happened between 1912 and 1926. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings. links[0]='http://www.GermanMilitaria.com'; the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. Lot 0478, Jan 14, 2023. 5.6 (Cleaning Kit 34) pictured (Fig. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, clearly indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example and not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded ERMA made muzzle protector. Thanks for the help. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. That is not to say that the use of the converted LP.08 holsters were subsequently discontinued with the introduction of the new style police holsters, but could have been used into the early The conclusion being that there are a variety of styles/shapes and size of brass studs used by the many different WW1 leather makers of LP08 Artillery holsters and as such, it is difficult to dismiss any of these original period brass studs as aftermarket, not German or not used with Artillery holsters. regulations issued in 1920, and are shown in the following table. Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. had its own police buckle. of "P". slides open to reveal five compartments containing: Hand written in pencil on the top front edge and bottom of the box is Schllhorn, which oddly, translates to cable puller. Each state (Pomerania, Prussia, Silesia, etc.) Below are some other HZa manufactured holsters and Ingolstadt marked parts. Hesse, Saxony, and others. Landjgerei Wiesbaden or the Prussian rural constabulary, Wiesbaden district. centered in the federal states of Prussia, Bavaria, Baden, Wuerttemberg, Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei) by directive 5 April 1922. The first toggle link is marked with the Mauser Commercial Banner Code. feared that an expanded police force would become a ready reserve for the Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the 19-130 pictures a cut-back LP.08 holster with a text caption, specifically and unequivocally, stating that the holster cleaning rod sleeve was modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop i.e., if a police cleaning rod with brass stopper wont fit the original cleaning rod sleeve, what difference would it make, dimensionally, to extend the length and not the diameter of the holster body leather cleaning rod sleeve? We've been wringing out the SFAR for several weeks and, with the first 500 rounds in the rearview, decided to go for some quiet time. Choose whether you want the sealed, opened box, or the marking stamp. Estimated Price: $ 8,500 - $ 14,000 Price Realized: Outstanding World War II Nazi 1941 Dated Single Digit Serial Number 3y Mauser Banner Eagle/L Police Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol with Two Matching Magazines and 1941 Dated Police Holster Manufacturer: Mauser Model: P08 Type: Pistol Gauge: 9 mm Luger Barrel: 3 7/8 inch round Finish: blue although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the letters and numbers, and the information presented here addresses just German weapons and equipment until 1937, when unit marking of materiel was is the only publication that is very specific as to its use, unfortunately, officially discontinued. Weight . and shipped to Mauser in the great move of 1930. 3 days Left DWM 1906 SWISS POLICE LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. 4. This rare leather S.K.g 715 holster by Otto Stuertz Allenstein is in excellent condition. The holster, shown with pistol, is unusual as it was made without a loading tool pouch under the cover flap and the cover flap lacks a keeper for the holster body attached closing strap. The unusual marking is located between the belt loops. Landjaegerei (rural constabulary), Assigned to Open Fullscreen Lot 3320: DWM Blank Chamber Police Luger Rig with Prussian Unit Markings Mauser Blank Chamber 1933 Police Sneak Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with Unit Markings, 1933 Dated Police Holster, and Extra Magazine Auction Date: December 11, 2022 Estimated Price: $ 2,000 - $ 3,000 Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping Interestingly, the cut-back artillery to purportedly, police conversions with toe plugs rarely have added twin belt loops. According to the Standard Catalog of Luger by Davis the meaning of this marking is unknown. Most observed are reworks with double date or blank chambers of DWM and ERFURT.(shown below) The eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. I have several lugers and Broomhandles with the "HZaJt18" marking on them. By the 19th century, disputes over the use of Fraktur or Antigua typeface became more heated and lasted until the middle of the 20th century. Luger wooden box cleaning kit (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. ad[1]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash1.jpg'; Pictured is an example featured in Weimar Lugers by J Still, 1993, Tom answers that question and gives a detailed . In Third Reich Lugers 1988 by J. ad[8]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. View First Unread . Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. Additionally, pictured below are pages 94 and 95 of WOL showing an early supply poof E/HZa.JL.16, two army equipment depot proofs E/HZA.J.L.3 and HZA.JL.78 with the J representing building and L representing Lager or Depot and the digits representing the depot number. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 5 ----------------------------------------------------------. 1074." or Schultzpolizei Mnsterwith pistol number 10742and post 1934 by adding a magazine safety. Still 1993 on page 174, Fig. The first 1920s Weimar era police Luger holster of new manufacture to be recognized as such is not manufacture marked is a black dyed leather, full cover flap with a holster body attached, pear-shaped up-strap secured to the cover flap without a keeper via the leather slit and brass stud method. pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. institute for technology and transport. German: German Mfg. the ministry's Official Directory provides clear, concise and easy-to-understand information to the police officers about their own rights and duties and how they are to deal with the daily demands of the service. In the TBLAP, Fig. The reworking ends in May 1921. MAUSER 1942 BANNER POLICE EAGLE L LUGER RIG - Z52521 9mm Luger; 95% blue, excellent bore, very good grips, 4"'' barrel, Bright original finish with light scratches. arms of this police force were a source of comflict with the IMKK, who Since the Germans used the FN M1922 during WW2 it is curious that the 1950s U.S. Barrel proof, some 1920 Police and Double Dated Lugers. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. The cut-back, first conversion feature of the subject police holster involved forming a regular curved, P.08 holster style, closed, stitched toe. Ulle these re-regulations have been scrutinized when processing the second application and have made extensive changes necessary in some sections. An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. Pictured below are several Police Training and Instruction manuals dating from 1921 through 1949. It is fortunate that both books stayed together since 1921 and were acquired as a set. There's a number "1" above the serial number on the base, which is indicative of police issued magazines, as the police numbered their magazines this way. RARE W.W.II GERMAN POLICE LUGER MAUSER HOLSTER - OTTO STUERTZ ALLENSTEIN. The lack of a holster maker on the rear, between the belt loops is not unusual considering its WW1 Imperial army origins, however, there is also no evidence of a maker mark under the cover flap. Vickers Ltd. - England&break;6. The subject WaAJL16 stamped Police style holster is the first one of two noted examples with the second WaAJL16 stamped holster being a P.08 Army style holster which has generated much collector speculation and opining. It is the Eagle/Mg10 stamping that requires explanation. Sturgess in TBLAP also states that the new police cleaning rods were issued to each police pistol, further stating in the Fig. It has all matching parts to include the side plate and take down lever which were stamped again with the same 2 digits as before but on the front of each part like would would see on a military marked pistol. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Gustav Reinhardt Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L. Sch.137. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example, not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded, 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum), two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army. On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: official guide for Prussian police officers. rotating clockwise the short collar section, about 270 degrees by 1) rotating the threaded, knurled NowThis holster displays three distinct branches of service either real or fake. The L.Z.A. Usually when this is done another identification is added. 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. It is speculated that the shift was also motivated by the need to communicate with occupied territories during WW2 and the use of Fraktur would inhibit that communication. Simson proofs. Polizei-Praesident Berlin=The Royal Police-President Berlin. made LP.08 holster, cut-back modified/converted in the Weimar era for use with a police P.08, 4-inch barrel Luger. Clearly identified on the facing edge holster spine is a period artillery Luger cleaning rod pouch with brass stud and leather slit cover flap. The lower of the two (brass) studs is not an original German stud. regiments which supplied its guns. Best, Pat He who lives by the sword, should train with it frequently. Buy GERMAN LUGER P08 POLICE MAGAZINE WITH DOVE MARKING EARLY POLICE VERY RARE: GunBroker is the largest seller of WW1 & WW2 Collectibles Collectibles & Militaria All: 961041063 . Most of the Police guns in this range report an eagle/WaA66 acceptance stamp on the right receiver (this stamp is not reported before the, 13 Police reports indicate a complete WaA66 proof and inspection suite, with, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. ad[9]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash3.jpg'; Thanks to everyone who has added to this excellent and informative thread. When identified, either gold or silver, some dated and maker marked, these Prussian State Police belt buckles are described as officer belt buckles and this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. that the item was issued to. August Weiss states further that the 'Riff' lot was produced by DWM late 1927 - early 1928. 3 days Left MAUSER C96 RED 9 POLICE, SIMSON REWORK. Collectors state the following regarding the WwMg/41 marking: Opinion on these stamps has differed over the years, but current thought is that the marks may be attributed to the waffenwerk depot at Magdeburg. Although, looking like a post 1926 type 2 police holster, being stamped on the rear with a P.08 serial number 1108 located on the rear panel in the upper right corner, usually associated with police holsters, it has an army E/WaAJL16 stamping. 31. an order of the Prussian Ministry of the Interior dated April 15, 1919, to view 2 and RIA has no less than 19 rare Krieghoff Lugers including commercial and Luftwaffe military contract guns. stamping for another letter or number, but since the upper portion of the left side rectangle enclosure line is partially obscured by the steel washer, resulting in a light stamping, missing a possible letter or number, which is a result of stamping too close to the underside washer, securing the cover flap steel stud. Otherwise, the magazine has no proof stamps or markings besides the serial number. 2 St 16 - item 16 of the 2nd patrol unit. Please report any errors to me. . Below, a muzzle protector is shown attached to a Mauser Oberndorf Luger, s.n. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. These considerations must form the basis for the training of the police officer. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. page 174, Fig. is described in great detail on page 25, Figure 18, see page 137 of Eugene Bender's "Luger Holsters & Accessories" for a similarly marked holster, RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, RIA 2018, Bahnschutz RBD Halle S holster offering, Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris, This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers, Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters, a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster, two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle, an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp, a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp, Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. Pictured and other interesting details are described in TBLAP police luger markings states that the new police rods... Broomhandles with the Mauser commercial Banner Code the bottom side of the four brass studs their... 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